Interview with Scott Johnson, owner and founder of Bel Air Cantina, Balzac, Hi Hat Lounge, Hi Hat Garage, Palomino Bar, Fuel Cafe, Comet Cafe, and Honeypie Cafe

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Scott Johnson is a man about town. After founding his first business in 1993, the ever-popular Riverwest hangout Fuel Café, Johnson went on to have a hand in the creation and continuing success of a variety of restaurants and coffeehouses.

Many, like Comet Café (recently featured on the Food Network’s “Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives”), are now East Side cultural institutions. Johnson recently took time out of his busy, down-and-dirty managerial schedule to have a chat with the UWM Post about the direction of the East Side and just what it’s like to have a direct hand in so much of it.

The UWM Post: To start off with, give us some background information. What are the businesses that you own?

Scott Johnson: My partner Leslie and I are together in everything, but the ones that we’re partners in are Fuel Café, Comet Café, Hi-Hat Lounge, Hi-Hat Garage, Balzac, Bel-Air Cantina, Palomino, and Honeypie Café.

Post: Are you founders of those places or did you acquire them somehow?

Johnson: We founded all of them.

Post: And what’s the oldest of those places?

Johnson: Fuel started in 1993.

Post: What is it like to own so many important businesses?

Johnson: [Laughs] It’s pretty great, it’s a pretty great job. We work with really great people and every day is different. I, myself, handle everything from maintenance and building and design to many developments in marketing, fixing toilets, plumbing and grease traps. So you get to do a little bit of everything.

Post: How long have you had a foothold on the East Side?

Johnson: Comet was the first one; that was in 1995.

Post: What’s the difference between running a business in Riverwest, like Fuel, as opposed to running one on the East Side?

Johnson: Riverwest is its own thing. I don’t know if you’ve been over there, it’s kind of a different burgh. It’s way more bohemian, more mixed ethnicities, a lot of students, a lot of families. They’ve got a pretty tight community over there. The East Side does too, but it’s a bigger thing; Riverwest is kind of its own enclave. It’s kind of small, whereas the East Side encompasses a lot of overlapping neighborhoods.

Post: Is there a difference between running a business between the two neighborhoods?

Johnson: Not really, you’re just dealing with different kinds of people. All in all, it’s the same: I’m just trying to serve good products and make people happy.

Post: Lately some East Side businesses you own like Comet and Hi-Hat have been significantly modernized while Fuel has stayed the same pretty much from the time it was founded.

Johnson: Fuel did get a little bit of an upgrade like four years ago, but basically it’s been the same. But that seems like what people want. Since it was the first one, we’re kind of attached to it the way it is. But that’s not to say it won’t change, there are actually some bigger changes we’ve been talking about for next year.

Post: What was the impetus for upgrading Comet and Hi-Hat?

Johnson: You’ve got to stay up with it; we can kind of tell when people’s interest starts dropping off, and our interest too. We want to keep it fun to do ourselves. It’s a business but it’s also an art project. We like to keep recreating and upgrading. So far it’s worked out.

Post: How much of an influence would you say local arts and culture have had on your businesses as they’ve grown?

Johnson: Pretty huge. We’ve always been into the local art, music, and film scene. Over at Fuel they have Riverwest Film & Video next door. There’s a recording studio in the basement, and we have art studios. We do small installations with UWM architecture students, and we’re doing another project with the next generation of UWM architecture students at Balzac. We like to stay involved.

Post: How have you seen the Brady Street area in particular change over the years?

Johnson: It seemed like it was really taking off and then it plateaued for a while, and in the last year or so it seems like there are some good changes afoot.

Mike down at the Nomad [World Pub] is always doing big events, like last year’s event on the street for the World Cup. Brady Street Festival is getting bigger and bigger every year. It’s just a good group or merchants over there, just a good neighborhood and community. Just in the last year there’s a new vibe and some new energy over there, and I really think it’s going to be a good couple of years. We’ve got a new thing we’re doing there next to the [Hi-Hat] Garage in the parking lot: a beer garden that we’re going to be building. That’s going to be a big thing for us and a pretty cool thing for the community, too.

Post: How much of a hit did you see the recession take on any of your businesses?

Johnson: It was pretty huge in the beginning, and it feels like it’s starting to bounce back a little bit, but it was pretty significant and I feel like everybody felt it in a huge way. At the same time, I feel like, before the crash hit, banks were sort of giving away money to anyone who wanted it, so it seemed like there were a lot of businesses going up that weren’t all that well thought-out. It was good to see people getting into business, but I feel like, at a certain point, it just reached saturation.

Post: How long do you think the recession will continue to be an influence?

Johnson: As long as the construction industry, which seems to be pretty big in Southeast Wisconsin, is depressed, I think that’s going to be the biggest thing. As long as housing doesn’t bounce back, it’s going to continue to be an issue for pretty much everyone. I think it’s definitely coming around, though. People are finding new things to do and everyone’s getting pretty creative starting their own businesses, which is good. It’s definitely coming around, but it’ll continue to be an issue for a little while.

Once again, I LOVE MIND SPIDERS’ ART!

granadatheater:

capdepardals:

Mind Spiders

LESS THAN A WEEK UNTIL BEST COAST + JEFF THE BROTHERHOOD + MIND SPIDERS F YES.

Once again, I LOVE MIND SPIDERS’ ART!

granadatheater:

capdepardals:

Mind Spiders

LESS THAN A WEEK UNTIL BEST COAST + JEFF THE BROTHERHOOD + MIND SPIDERS F YES.

LOUIS C.K.

brilliance.

14:30 Bag of Dicks

“Hey this is interesting the other day, a guy told me to suck a bag of dicks. That was interesting. I had never heard that before. A total stranger told me to suck a bag of dicks. A whole bag of ‘em!

He was angry he didn’t just, you know, “Suck a bag of dicks” like a greeting. 

Now what happened was I cut him off in traffic.

It was just one of those things where I just I had to get in and no one was in my car to judge me and I just fuckin’, you know, I just decided he’s not me so I don’t care what hapepns to him and I cut him off. It was a shitty thing to do.

That concept of suckin a bag of dicks its just weird.

When you picture a bag of dicks. What do you see when you picture a bag of dicks?

A paper bag and they’re sticking out like baguettes? You went shoppin’? Bringin’ home a bag a dicks for the kids. “Here you go, Susy, take a blue one.” 

And how do you suck a bag of dicks?

What does he want me to do? Does he want me to take a bag of dicks and suck it? Like suck the side of the bag? Or does he want me to open the bag and suck each dick individually? Throw the used ones in a bowl like edemame shells? Like that?

I’ve never sucked a dick and I think it’s weird. 

Most people in the world have sucked a dick. 51% of the world is women. They suck dicks. Then you got your gay guys, and all the straight guys who have been forced to suck dicks under various situations. 

Theres only like 1,000 of us out there.”

-Louis C.K.

AND 20:30! Gay people

Awesome. It’s not like they’re running around willy nilly just fuckin’ people. Like when you’re at the ATM. What the fuck! You ruined my new pants!

“Don’t get married!” Well you don’t have to go to the wedding! You

It doesn’t matter it doesn’t have any effect on your life, why do you care?

“How am I supposed to explain this to my son?”

Two people are in love but they can’t get married because you don’t want to talk to your shitty kid for 5 minutes? He’s probably gay anyways.”

-Louis C.K.

24:30 Getting fat with skinny friends

To his skinny friend-

“Fuck you, you don’t get it. It’s a whole spiral that begins with the donut later im killin’ hookers and I dont even know what happened.”

-Louis C.K.

The rest is amazing too, I’m just sick of typing. 

The only big actor left in Hollywood who hasn’t cheated on his long-term wife was John Travolta. 

I always wondered about that… 

Turns out he’s gay and not only cheated on his wife but apparently pulled some shady shit as far as other parties being 100% willing.

The world’s ending and I’m becoming a dyke.

Goodbye.

The only big actor left in Hollywood who hasn’t cheated on his long-term wife was John Travolta.

I always wondered about that…

Turns out he’s gay and not only cheated on his wife but apparently pulled some shady shit as far as other parties being 100% willing.

The world’s ending and I’m becoming a dyke.

Goodbye.

On to the next one. 

Hennepin from the Brewery Ommegang.

‘Deceptively light-bodied and crisp, this effervescent American saison is stronger than most of its style. Delicate yeast flavors intertwine with honey, golden raisens, and suggestions of dry grains.’

Cafe Benelux, Third Ward Milwaukee.

On to the next one.

Hennepin from the Brewery Ommegang.

‘Deceptively light-bodied and crisp, this effervescent American saison is stronger than most of its style. Delicate yeast flavors intertwine with honey, golden raisens, and suggestions of dry grains.’

Cafe Benelux, Third Ward Milwaukee.

A beautiful day in Milwaukee with a perfect glass of High Speed Wit from the Lowlands Brewing Company.

One of my favorite beers.

‘Robust and round witbier with flavors of orange, lemon and yeast and touch of cinnamon and an almost earthy, nutty element. Has a bit of creaminess and just the right amount of zing.’

At Cafe Benelux, Third Ward Milwaukee.

A beautiful day in Milwaukee with a perfect glass of High Speed Wit from the Lowlands Brewing Company.

One of my favorite beers.

‘Robust and round witbier with flavors of orange, lemon and yeast and touch of cinnamon and an almost earthy, nutty element. Has a bit of creaminess and just the right amount of zing.’

At Cafe Benelux, Third Ward Milwaukee.

not knowing what you want from your life and from yourself and from your people is tantamount to scurrying around a littered subway tunnel. 

you don’t really need to know what you want from your place because one you know what you want from yourself, you can be happy anywhere.

i guess this just proves im an extrovert. because enlightenment can only be reached from within yourself. it doesn’t matter knowing what you want from your people, just like it doesnt matter knowing what you want from your place.

you just need to know what you want from yourself.

then you can go anywhere :)

not knowing what you want from your life and from yourself and from your people is tantamount to scurrying around a littered subway tunnel. 

you don’t really need to know what you want from your place because one you know what you want from yourself, you can be happy anywhere.

i guess this just proves im an extrovert. because enlightenment can only be reached from within yourself. it doesn’t matter knowing what you want from your people, just like it doesnt matter knowing what you want from your place.

you just need to know what you want from yourself.

then you can go anywhere :)